I purchased these wheels for my 1969 Firebird to replace the factory 14" Rally II wheels. The black paint I think is a great look instead of the silver. I did 17x8 up front and 17x9 in the rear. They were drop shipped from US Mags and arrived the day after I ordered them! The black center caps with red PMD lettering arrived only a day later. Everything arrived with zero damage. I would highly recommend these. Not only do they look great, but are an outstanding value if you also want the PMD center caps. For anyone else with a 69 Firebird wanting to run these, I have Nitto NT555 G2 tires in 235/45/17 front and 255/50/17 rear.